Most people wait until an idea looks reasonable before they bet on it. But nothing new starts out reasonable. This is a conversation about competition, building from zero, sleeping on mats, running out of money, believing anyway, and having enough conviction to keep going when the dream still looks insane to everybody else.
How long would you keep going if the thing you believed in wasn’t making you money yet? If you were sleeping on mats? If quitting would make your life a hell of a lot easier?
Ivan Zarate sits down with Zach to talk about what it actually looks like to bet on yourself when the vision in your head is bigger than the evidence in front of you.
Press play if your dream still sounds a little fucking crazy to everyone else.
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